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[IDEA] Streaming from Qobuz native app - Printable Version +- Moode Forum (https://moodeaudio.org/forum) +-- Forum: moOde audio player (https://moodeaudio.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=3) +--- Forum: Feature requests (https://moodeaudio.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=8) +--- Thread: [IDEA] Streaming from Qobuz native app (/showthread.php?tid=4660) |
RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - the_bertrum - 05-07-2025 What I can't see there is a any FOSS licenced code that could be integrated into moOde. Are there any pages aimed st developers - my quick browse didn't show any up. RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - MagicBandwidth - 05-07-2025 (05-07-2025, 02:31 PM)the_bertrum Wrote: What I can't see there is a any FOSS licenced code that could be integrated into moOde. Are there any pages aimed st developers - my quick browse didn't show any up. Caveat: I'm not a developer. I do see Volumio on the list of brands integrated with Qobuz Connect. Do any developers working on moOde happen to know any developers working on Volumio? Maybe they could share tips and advice? FWIW, here's what ChatGPT recommends: Quote:Volumio's integration of Qobuz Connect is the result of a close collaboration with Qobuz, involving access to their proprietary SDK and adherence to specific integration guidelines. This partnership allowed Volumio to implement the feature across its entire product line, including the Raspberry Pi-based Volumio OS .Volumio Community RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - the_bertrum - 05-07-2025 Yup, so that means Volumio paid a developer to work with Qobuz to implement Qobuz' closed code into their app. They'll recoup the cost through charging a premium for the feature. That's not going to work for moOde, we'd need Qobuz to at least make an API available so a FOSS connect application could be developed. RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - roderickvd - 05-08-2025 We could ask. Tim or I could try and do that with hopefully some credentials. I don’t expect much but hey who knows! Barring that, depending on how it goes with Deezer Connect, I could look into reverse engineering it. I’d need to have access to a supported device to assess if that’s feasible at all. RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - Tim Curtis - 05-08-2025 (05-07-2025, 03:25 PM)the_bertrum Wrote: Yup, so that means Volumio paid a developer to work with Qobuz to implement Qobuz' closed code into their app. They'll recoup the cost through charging a premium for the feature. (05-08-2025, 04:49 PM)roderickvd Wrote: We could ask. Tim or I could try and do that with hopefully some credentials. I don’t expect much but hey who knows! Music service API's are licensed with NDA's and typically paid for by a recurring periodic payment to the service provider, and there are minimum dollar mounts that have to be met and sustained or a license won't be granted. This make it a no-go for FOSS. From what I've seen, players that do license an API usually implement a low function version of the Music services native application. I wouldn't want that and definitely would never pay for it as a player "feature" particularly since I'm already paying for the Music service which already includes a nice app. The best approaches IMO make use of the Music services native app for example the "Connect" protocols like Spotify Connect, the "Casting" protocols like AirPlay2 and "Network" protocols like Bluetooth. RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - roderickvd - 05-08-2025 Yes I was also referring to the Qobuz Connect protocol which came out of beta this month. RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - Tim Curtis - 05-08-2025 Got it. That could make for an interesting "librebuz" project. RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - roderickvd - 05-11-2025 I've spent a few hours digging into Qobuz Connect and it looks doable to build a headless player for it - along the lines of librespot or pleezer. No promises yet, but I'll start exploring it further. If you'd like to support the effort, I'd appreciate sponsorship at https://github.com/sponsors/roderickvd. It'll help cover the Qobuz subscription and tools needed for protocol analysis and development. RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - Tim Curtis - 05-11-2025 (05-11-2025, 12:57 PM)roderickvd Wrote: I've spent a few hours digging into Qobuz Connect and it looks doable to build a headless player for it - along the lines of librespot or pleezer. Sure, no prob. Do you know at this point whether authentication will be by user's Qobuz account id and password or does some sort of developer token need to be used? RE: Streaming from Qobuz native app - roderickvd - 05-11-2025 Thank you for your support Tim. From first analysis I think username/password authentication should be possible, like with pleezer. That is the goal. |