24bit track cracking an popping

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24bit track cracking an popping - Hydra - 09-18-2022

When I try to play 24-bit Flac music, (24 bit 48 khz , 24 bit 96 khz ) there are cuts and cracks in the first and later minutes of the song, I didn't have such problems with picore, moode only plays 16 bit 44 khz flac without any problems, for example, the same problem causes interruptions on 320 Kbps mp3 and AAC tracks.

my system;

Topping E30 is connected to PI3B+ with a high quality usb cable , I have not experienced such problems with other software , what is the problem ?

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - Tim Curtis - 09-18-2022

No issues on my end with 24-bit formats (44.1 - 192K) on any of my 5 systems: 3 x I2S, 1 USB and 1 Pi-Headphone.

Post the moOde startup log and I'll have a look.

Code:
moodeutl -l

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - Hydra - 09-19-2022

(09-18-2022, 12:20 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: No issues on my end with 24-bit formats (44.1 - 192K) on any of my 5 systems: 3 x I2S, 1 USB and 1 Pi-Headphone.

Post the moOde startup log and I'll have a look.

Code:
moodeutl -l

All Hi-Res files popping and cracking and also mp3 and aac files cracking and popping issue only 16bit 44.1 khz flac files plays no problem ,

especially when swiping songs with my hand but if I don't touch it later in the track, it plays smoothly.

pi@moode:~ $ moodeutl -l
20220918 185624 worker: --
20220918 185624 worker: -- Start moOde 8 series
20220918 185624 worker: --
20220918 185624 worker: Successfully daemonized
20220919 205753 worker: File check (OK)
20220919 205754 worker: Session vacuumed
20220919 205754 worker: Session loaded
20220919 205754 worker: Debug logging (OFF)
20220919 205754 worker: --
20220919 205754 worker: -- Audio debug
20220919 205754 worker: --
20220919 205754 worker: ALSA cards: (0:b1 | 1:Headphones | 2:E30 | 3:empty
20220919 205754 worker: MPD config: (2:E30 | mixer Sad

E30 ) | card:2)
20220919 205754 worker: ALSA mixer actual (E30 )
20220919 205755 worker: ALSA E30 volume set to (0%)
20220919 205755 worker: --
20220919 205755 worker: -- System
20220919 205755 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: Host (moode)
20220919 205757 worker: moOde (8.2.0 2022-09-16)
20220919 205757 worker: RaspiOS (11.5)
20220919 205757 worker: Kernel (5.15.61-v8+ #1579)
20220919 205757 worker: Platform (Pi-3B+ 1.3 1GB)
20220919 205757 worker: ARM arch (aarch64, 64-bit)
20220919 205757 worker: MPD ver (0.23.5)
20220919 205757 worker: CPU gov (ondemand)
20220919 205757 worker: USB boot (enabled)
20220919 205757 worker: File sys (expanded)
20220919 205757 worker: HDMI port (Off)
20220919 205757 worker: Sys LED0 (Off)
20220919 205757 worker: Sys LED1 (On)
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: -- Network
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: eth0 adapter exists
20220919 205757 worker: eth0 check for address (No)
20220919 205757 worker: IP addr (192.168.1.55)
20220919 205757 worker: Netmask (255.255.255.0)
20220919 205757 worker: Gateway (192.168.1.1)
20220919 205757 worker: Pri DNS (89.104.194.142)
20220919 205757 worker: Domain ()
20220919 205757 worker: wlan0 adapter does not exist
20220919 205757 worker: apd0 router mode ()
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: -- Software update
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: Automatic check (Off)
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: -- Audio config
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: MPD conf update skipped (USB device)
20220919 205757 worker: ALSA card number (2)
20220919 205758 worker: MPD audio output (E30)
20220919 205758 worker: Audio formats (S32_LE, SPECIAL, DSD_U32_BE)
20220919 205758 worker: ALSA mixer name (E30 )
20220919 205758 worker: MPD mixer type (fixed 0dB)
20220919 205758 worker: Hdwr volume controller exists
20220919 205758 worker: Max ALSA volume (93%)
20220919 205758 worker: ALSA output mode (Default: plughw)
20220919 205758 worker: ALSA loopback (Off)
20220919 205758 worker: Reset renderer active flags
20220919 205758 worker: CamillaDSP (off)
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205758 worker: -- File sharing
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205758 worker: SMB file sharing (Off)
20220919 205758 worker: NFS file sharing (Off)
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205758 worker: -- MPD startup
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205759 worker: MPD started
20220919 205759 worker: MPD accepting connections
20220919 205759 worker: MPD output 1 ALSA Default (On)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD output 2 ALSA Bluetooth (Off)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD output 3 HTTP Server (On)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD crossfade (off)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD ignore CUE files (yes)
20220919 205759 worker: --
20220919 205759 worker: -- Music sources
20220919 205759 worker: --
20220919 205759 worker: USB sources (none attached)
20220919 205802 worker: NAS sources (mountall initiated)
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: -- Feature availability
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: Source select (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Source select (source: MPD)
20220919 205802 worker: Source select (output: E30)
20220919 205802 worker: Bluetooth (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Airplay renderer (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: Spotify renderer (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: Squeezelite (available)
20220919 205802 worker: RoonBridge renderer (not installed)
20220919 205802 worker: Multiroom sender (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Multiroom receiver (available)
20220919 205802 worker: UPnP renderer (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: DLNA server (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: GPIO button handler (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Stream recorder (n/a)
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: -- Other
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: USB volume knob (Off)
20220919 205802 worker: USB auto-mounter (udisks-glue)
20220919 205802 worker: Saved MPD vol level (0)
20220919 205802 worker: Preamp volume level (0)
20220919 205802 worker: MPD volume level (0) restored
20220919 205802 worker: ALSA E30 volume (93%)
20220919 205802 worker: Auto-play (Off)
20220919 205802 worker: CoverView toggle (-off)
20220919 205802 worker: Maintenance interval (120 minutes)
20220919 205802 worker: Screen saver activation (Never)
20220919 205802 worker: Session permissions (OK)
20220919 205802 worker: Watchdog started
20220919 205802 worker: Ready
20220919 212856 worker: Job shellinabox

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - Tim Curtis - 09-19-2022

I don't see anything suspicious in the log other than the entry below which should be "apd0 router mode (Off)" but its just a a harmless logging bug.

20220919 205757 worker: apd0 router mode ()

Try using Hardware volume instead of Fixed volume and leave ALSA max violume at 100%, and if you have a different USB DAC swap it in and see ion the glitches reoccur.

Hopefully someone with the same audio device can run some tests and see if they can repro the audio glitches and possibly provide some insights as to what might be causing them or conversely provide a success case.

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - jonners - 09-19-2022

No issues for me on 24bit flac or mp3 with the E30, connected to Allo USBridge Sig.
Hardware, software and fixed volume all play without glitches.

EDIT: I should add that I'm using the E30 in 'DAC mode', which disables the E30 volume control and outputs 0dB volume.

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - Hydra - 09-20-2022

(09-19-2022, 06:32 PM)Hydra Wrote:
(09-18-2022, 12:20 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote: No issues on my end with 24-bit formats (44.1 - 192K) on any of my 5 systems: 3 x I2S, 1 USB and 1 Pi-Headphone.

Post the moOde startup log and I'll have a look.

Code:
moodeutl -l

All Hi-Res files popping and cracking and also mp3 and aac files cracking and popping issue only 16bit 44.1 khz flac files plays no problem ,

especially when swiping songs with my hand but if I don't touch it later in the track, it plays smoothly.

pi@moode:~ $ moodeutl -l
20220918 185624 worker: --
20220918 185624 worker: -- Start moOde 8 series
20220918 185624 worker: --
20220918 185624 worker: Successfully daemonized
20220919 205753 worker: File check (OK)
20220919 205754 worker: Session vacuumed
20220919 205754 worker: Session loaded
20220919 205754 worker: Debug logging (OFF)
20220919 205754 worker: --
20220919 205754 worker: -- Audio debug
20220919 205754 worker: --
20220919 205754 worker: ALSA cards: (0:b1 | 1:Headphones | 2:E30 | 3:empty
20220919 205754 worker: MPD config: (2:E30 | mixerE30 ) | card:2)
20220919 205754 worker: ALSA mixer actual (E30 )
20220919 205755 worker: ALSA E30 volume set to (0%)
20220919 205755 worker: --
20220919 205755 worker: -- System
20220919 205755 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: Host (moode)
20220919 205757 worker: moOde (8.2.0 2022-09-16)
20220919 205757 worker: RaspiOS (11.5)
20220919 205757 worker: Kernel (5.15.61-v8+ #1579)
20220919 205757 worker: Platform (Pi-3B+ 1.3 1GB)
20220919 205757 worker: ARM arch (aarch64, 64-bit)
20220919 205757 worker: MPD ver (0.23.5)
20220919 205757 worker: CPU gov (ondemand)
20220919 205757 worker: USB boot (enabled)
20220919 205757 worker: File sys (expanded)
20220919 205757 worker: HDMI port (Off)
20220919 205757 worker: Sys LED0 (Off)
20220919 205757 worker: Sys LED1 (On)
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: -- Network
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: eth0 adapter exists
20220919 205757 worker: eth0 check for address (No)
20220919 205757 worker: IP addr (192.168.1.55)
20220919 205757 worker: Netmask (255.255.255.0)
20220919 205757 worker: Gateway (192.168.1.1)
20220919 205757 worker: Pri DNS (89.104.194.142)
20220919 205757 worker: Domain ()
20220919 205757 worker: wlan0 adapter does not exist
20220919 205757 worker: apd0 router mode ()
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: -- Software update
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: Automatic check (Off)
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: -- Audio config
20220919 205757 worker: --
20220919 205757 worker: MPD conf update skipped (USB device)
20220919 205757 worker: ALSA card number (2)
20220919 205758 worker: MPD audio output (E30)
20220919 205758 worker: Audio formats (S32_LE, SPECIAL, DSD_U32_BE)
20220919 205758 worker: ALSA mixer name (E30 )
20220919 205758 worker: MPD mixer type (fixed 0dB)
20220919 205758 worker: Hdwr volume controller exists
20220919 205758 worker: Max ALSA volume (93%)
20220919 205758 worker: ALSA output mode (Default: plughw)
20220919 205758 worker: ALSA loopback (Off)
20220919 205758 worker: Reset renderer active flags
20220919 205758 worker: CamillaDSP (off)
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205758 worker: -- File sharing
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205758 worker: SMB file sharing (Off)
20220919 205758 worker: NFS file sharing (Off)
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205758 worker: -- MPD startup
20220919 205758 worker: --
20220919 205759 worker: MPD started
20220919 205759 worker: MPD accepting connections
20220919 205759 worker: MPD output 1 ALSA Default (On)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD output 2 ALSA Bluetooth (Off)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD output 3 HTTP Server (On)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD crossfade (off)
20220919 205759 worker: MPD ignore CUE files (yes)
20220919 205759 worker: --
20220919 205759 worker: -- Music sources
20220919 205759 worker: --
20220919 205759 worker: USB sources (none attached)
20220919 205802 worker: NAS sources (mountall initiated)
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: -- Feature availability
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: Source select (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Source select (source: MPD)
20220919 205802 worker: Source select (output: E30)
20220919 205802 worker: Bluetooth (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Airplay renderer (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: Spotify renderer (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: Squeezelite (available)
20220919 205802 worker: RoonBridge renderer (not installed)
20220919 205802 worker: Multiroom sender (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Multiroom receiver (available)
20220919 205802 worker: UPnP renderer (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: DLNA server (available: started)
20220919 205802 worker: GPIO button handler (available)
20220919 205802 worker: Stream recorder (n/a)
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: -- Other
20220919 205802 worker: --
20220919 205802 worker: USB volume knob (Off)
20220919 205802 worker: USB auto-mounter (udisks-glue)
20220919 205802 worker: Saved MPD vol level (0)
20220919 205802 worker: Preamp volume level (0)
20220919 205802 worker: MPD volume level (0) restored
20220919 205802 worker: ALSA E30 volume (93%)
20220919 205802 worker: Auto-play (Off)
20220919 205802 worker: CoverView toggle (-off)
20220919 205802 worker: Maintenance interval (120 minutes)
20220919 205802 worker: Screen saver activation (Never)
20220919 205802 worker: Session permissions (OK)
20220919 205802 worker: Watchdog started
20220919 205802 worker: Ready
20220919 212856 worker: Job shellinabox

I will record a video

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - jonners - 09-20-2022

@Hydra

If you are using the E30 in Preamp mode try it in DAC mode.

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - Hydra - 09-20-2022

(09-20-2022, 11:16 AM)jonners Wrote: @Hydra

If you are using the E30 in Preamp mode try it in DAC mode.

Already in Dac mode

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - Hydra - 09-20-2022

When I start the song, there is an interruption at the beginning, then when I forward it manually, there is an interruption, it usually always happens at the beginning of the song or when I forward it myself. This is normal mp3 file , Listen carefully to the first seconds of the song, there is a momentary pause in 24-bit songs as well.

interruption occurs at three seconds

https://streamable.com/olum35

RE: 24bit track cracking an popping - Hydra - 09-20-2022

OMG , I deactivate the http streaming options and all files plays no skipping or cracking !!