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GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - BIGG_Q - 03-06-2025

Good morning,

First off I want to say Moode is amazing and I have been loving it. Unfortunately, one of my streaming pi's is in a room without direct ethernet access. I have a pure WPA3 SAE wifi network with enforced PMF. (This is not a WPA2/WPA3 mixed network)

I tried connecting via the GUI but it did not work. I was, however, able to connect using nmcli. I have attached a screenshot showing my nmcli wifi config. I think this would be a beneficial addition to the GUI to allow for seamless connection as networks and security continue to modernize.

I realize not all pi's are probably capable of this. I am using a Raspberry Pi 3B+ 1GB. 

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Config from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Mango.nmconnection

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RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - Tim Curtis - 03-06-2025

Is it just key-mgmt=sae ??

If thats the case I'll add to the TODO list


RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - TheOldPresbyope - 03-06-2025

@BIGG_Q

Great to have input from a knowledgable user running a pure WPA3 network.


RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - BIGG_Q - 03-06-2025

@Tim Curtis

I connected to a WPA2 network and compared the configs. The only difference is the key-mgmt field.
WPA2 key-mgmt=wpa-psk
WPA3 key-mgmt=sae

@TheOldPresbyope

Thanks! This seems like a great community and I'm glad to be here.


RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - Tim Curtis - 03-06-2025

(03-06-2025, 04:54 PM)BIGG_Q Wrote: @Tim Curtis

I connected to a WPA2 network and compared the configs. The only difference is the key-mgmt field.
WPA2 key-mgmt=wpa-psk
WPA3 key-mgmt=sae

@TheOldPresbyope

Thanks! This seems like a great community and I'm glad to be here.

Ok, thanks. I'm testing the patches and so far so good.

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RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - BIGG_Q - 03-13-2025

(03-06-2025, 10:25 PM)Tim Curtis Wrote:
(03-06-2025, 04:54 PM)BIGG_Q Wrote: @Tim Curtis

I connected to a WPA2 network and compared the configs. The only difference is the key-mgmt field.
WPA2 key-mgmt=wpa-psk
WPA3 key-mgmt=sae

@TheOldPresbyope

Thanks! This seems like a great community and I'm glad to be here.

Ok, thanks. I'm testing the patches and so far so good.

I logged back in and see that the WPA3 switch is included in the latest release of Moode Audio. The speed that you developed, tested, and implemented this feature into the GUI is insane!! Good stuff man this is great


RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - ultramode - 03-14-2025

Hi all,

Didn't work for me after reboot. Only way I could get it to consistently work was by removing the hashed key in the config and replacing it with the real key. Then worked perfectly.


RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - Tim Curtis - 03-14-2025

(03-14-2025, 01:17 PM)ultramode Wrote: Hi all,

Didn't work for me after reboot. Only way I could get it to consistently work was by removing the hashed key in the config and replacing it with the real key. Then worked perfectly.

What are the exact steps so I can try to repro on my end.


RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - ultramode - 03-14-2025

Hi Tim,

Seems to be a lower level issue, some distros have used various work around, but the general consensus seems to be a clear text password for WPA3 as the mechanism it uses doesn’t pose the same issues as WPA2 apart from storage the password in the clear. I’ll do a full breakdown on Sunday on post it. Spent a few hours on it earlier and got it running the way I mentioned.


RE: GUI switch for pure WPA3 WiFi networks - Tim Curtis - 03-14-2025

(03-14-2025, 06:50 PM)ultramode Wrote: Hi Tim,

Seems to be a lower level issue, some distros have used various work around, but the general consensus seems to be a clear text password for WPA3 as the mechanism it uses doesn’t pose the same issues as WPA2 apart from storage the password in the clear. I’ll do a full breakdown on Sunday on post it. Spent a few hours on it earlier and got it running the way I mentioned.

Great, thanks.