07-13-2021, 02:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-13-2021, 02:22 PM by Miss Sissy Princess.)
Thanks for the additional information.
I do not mean any disrespect, but we are all prone to hearing differences where none exist -- especially us audiophiles (it's no badge of shame to members of the general public to say 'yeah, those amps sound the same'). It's established science at this point, with numerous studies showing that to be the case. There are many reasons for it, including evolutionary biology, but that's wandering way off of the primary topic of your thread.
What I recommend is first establishing whether you can hear a difference in a blind test with Camilla in or out of the signal path with Camilla set flat. Do you have a friend or family member who could help you conduct an impromptu blind listening test?
Assuming you show an ability to detect the difference in a blind test, then some more exploration of Camilla settings would be in order. It's quite complex and I am sure that others here are more experienced and proficient with it than I am.
If you get everything set properly to minimize or eliminate any degradation (with the help of said experts), and you can still hear said degradation in a blind test, then maybe that's as far as you can go with Camilla.
If you get Camilla to a transparent state, then you can move on to experimenting with EQ and DSP to improve bass extension.
I understand the power that Camilla has, but I don't have the T&M gear to really fully utilize it (I'd probably make things worse rather than better). Did you try to accomplish what you wanted using the simple parametric and graphic EQ rather than Camilla?
As I am sure that you know, at some point, you run into limitations on bass extension imposed by speaker drivers, cabinet design, amplifiers, and the listening room (none of which I know much about in your system). That's why I own speakers large enough to be buried in (a thought that has probably occurred to my wife on multiple occasions), each of which includes a 15" subwoofer, 15" passive radiator, and a 10" woofer. As the car nuts say, there's no replacement for displacement.
I do not mean any disrespect, but we are all prone to hearing differences where none exist -- especially us audiophiles (it's no badge of shame to members of the general public to say 'yeah, those amps sound the same'). It's established science at this point, with numerous studies showing that to be the case. There are many reasons for it, including evolutionary biology, but that's wandering way off of the primary topic of your thread.
What I recommend is first establishing whether you can hear a difference in a blind test with Camilla in or out of the signal path with Camilla set flat. Do you have a friend or family member who could help you conduct an impromptu blind listening test?
Assuming you show an ability to detect the difference in a blind test, then some more exploration of Camilla settings would be in order. It's quite complex and I am sure that others here are more experienced and proficient with it than I am.
If you get everything set properly to minimize or eliminate any degradation (with the help of said experts), and you can still hear said degradation in a blind test, then maybe that's as far as you can go with Camilla.
If you get Camilla to a transparent state, then you can move on to experimenting with EQ and DSP to improve bass extension.
I understand the power that Camilla has, but I don't have the T&M gear to really fully utilize it (I'd probably make things worse rather than better). Did you try to accomplish what you wanted using the simple parametric and graphic EQ rather than Camilla?
As I am sure that you know, at some point, you run into limitations on bass extension imposed by speaker drivers, cabinet design, amplifiers, and the listening room (none of which I know much about in your system). That's why I own speakers large enough to be buried in (a thought that has probably occurred to my wife on multiple occasions), each of which includes a 15" subwoofer, 15" passive radiator, and a 10" woofer. As the car nuts say, there's no replacement for displacement.
Cheers,
Miss Sissy Princess
Miss Sissy Princess
